Ontario to restrict cellphone use by drivers
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Date: Tuesday Oct. 28, 2008 7:55 PM ET
The Ontario government tabled legislation that will ban text messaging and emailing while driving and force motorists to use hands-free, voice-activated equipment when making calls on their cellphones.
"We know these new technologies have created some tremendous conveniences," Transportation Minister told reporters on Tuesday. "But we know something else. Deep down, we all know it is dangerous to use them while driving."
Here's what is banned:
- cellphones, even at a stop light
- dialing
- BlackBerrys
- texting
- hand-held GPS
The OPP said it will start enforcing the new rules as soon as the government passes the legislation. If caught by police, drivers will face fines of at least $500 and demerit points.
"There are collisions attributable to it, and some fatalities. So it is a huge concern," said OPP Deputy Commissioner Larry Beechey.
"We've all had near-misses. I'm just as guilty as anyone else. Hands-free or not, talking on the phone is cognitively distracting," said Dr. Suzanne Strasberg of the Ontario Medical Association.
The Liberal government consulted police and the Insurance Bureau of Canada before drafting the legislation, Bradley said. He also brought a driving simulator to the news conference to demonstrate how distracting a cellphone can be.
The bill will first go to committee to be tweaked, but could become the law in a matter of months.
Newfoundland, Quebec and Nova Scotia have all recently introduced new guidelines to prevent drivers from using hand-held devices, while the governments of Manitoba and Prince Edward Island are considering similar legislation.
Cellphone bans for drivers are already in place in about 50 countries, including Australia, China, France, Kenya and Slovenia.
Contrary view
Despite the growing popularity of cellphone bans for motorists, the Canada Safety Council opposes the proposed new legislation.
Spokesman Emile Therien acknowledged Tuesday that talking on the phone is a distraction while driving.
However, he argued that most cellphone users would not comply with the law, which would in turn make it hard for police to enforce.
"I think it's just a case of feel-good legislation," Therien said during an interview on CTV Newsnet. "It makes people feel good but it really doesn't deliver tangible safety benefits."
Therien said that reckless drivers can already be charged and face fines and demerit points under the Highway Traffic Safety Act.
Therien also said a public awareness campaign would best inform motorists of the potential dangers of talking and texting while driving.
While nine-in-10 Canadian drivers don't approve of using a cellphone behind the wheel, more than half of them admit to using one while driving, according to a RBC Insurance/Ipsos Reid survey released this week.
In anticipation of widespread bans of electronic devices for drivers, North American car manufacturers are already building hands-free technologies right into new models.
With a report from CTV Toronto's Paul Bliss and files from The Canadian Press
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Norm
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duck
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I have already refused to use my cell phone while on the road.
Dedo Vlado
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Harvey
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EJ
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Pierre from Kingston
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Bee
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Cops drive and type on their computers. The hypocrisy is laughable - to think that no one else on the planet can operate electronic devices safely while driving. Some can, some can't (go after the ones that can't). Are they saying cops are the only ones that can? If it's a matter of training, anyone could be required to have the same training.
Talking to a passenger (especially a child) is more destracting since many drivers can't seem to do so without looking at the passenger (instead of the road). Perhaps we should ban all passengers.
Funny they never consider the "lack of challenge" factor that keeps people alert while driving. Then we are left we the majority of drivers falling asleep at the wheel.
A study in the US showed that it was more dangerous to pull off to the shoulder of a busy highway to take a call and re-enter the highway than to actually take the call and tell the caller they will call back later.
Shamaro
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Also, GPS devices are a hazard as well. I find that having one on your dash, you tend to watch that more than you watch the road.
This is also good, because so manynew drivers who do begin to drive, should learn how to drive, not learn how to tak on a cell phone and drive a car at the same time.
Gary from Ottawa
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Also, the article doesn't mention whether GPS devices are included in the ban. I would prefer to use that device rather than trying to look at a map while driving. I would consider a GPS a hands free map.
will
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Ron
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Doug
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Doug
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Murray
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Cindy
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James - Eh!
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Not too sure about GPS systems. While playing with them while driving is definitely a distraction, if they are pre-programmed before setting out, they can add to safety as they give plenty of notice for lane changes and turns. There are few things worse than a driver who doesn't know where he/she is going, who makes unsignalled lane changes and stops while trying to figure out where he/she is.
Frank
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Sam C
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CYL
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the sooner the better, implement immediately. In addition, if one of caught or be the cause of a result of harm to another because of use of these electronic items while operating anything, let their insurance be denied and criminal charges apply.
Tony
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My question is that if they are going to regulate the use of a headset for a cell phone, are they going to pick up the cost? I doubt it! Typical flip flopping of the Ontario government.
- A NON PROUD Ontarian
gregnb
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John in Ottawa
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Bob London
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Pete
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To all those posters who feel that their freedom is being compromised by such government legislation, I would aks one question. How would YOU like to be crossing the street in the intersection when a car blows through a red light with the driver talking on a cellphone ....... I thought so!!!
Patrick
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I'd be OK with a hands-free law as long as it also involved voice-dialing.
And x2 to the poster that brought up the issue of allowing dogs on their laps - that is a very dangerous situation. That should be introduced as a new law as well.
MIchael (Ottawa)
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This should have been done years ago. A day late and a dollar short seems to be the norm for Premier McGuinty. The Premier should be dealing with the economy as he was totally unprepared for this credit crisis and its effects on Ontarians.
Mandy, Halifax
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QT1
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Ray St. Louis Jr.
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10-78
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KJ in Kingston Ontario
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MP.
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The ban applies to an action of physically holding a device (such as a cellphone) and talk while driving.
We're not banning the device, but the action.
So in that case, it would stand reason to ban holding a coffee, talk and drive.
There's holding food, talking and driving.
I could hold a yellow rubber duck in my hand, talk and drive and in theory such action could be deemed illegal.
Hmmm...there's gonna be a long lineup at traffic court in the next few months.
shoe
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Tekneex
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Next cup holders will be banned I bet? In Germany they don't have them in cars because it's illegal to drink anything and drive from what I heard.
Are radios and CDs next?
Socialism is killing us
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The next problem
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McGuinty and friends need to think this one out
Russ
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Prof. Pye Chartt
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This legislation is just another piece of populist junk pushed down the slippery slope of government parenting, which has no end (especially during times of left-wing governments). Years ago, Ontario imposed a helmet law for bicycle riders (adults were exempted at the last minute); despite the fact that the underlying public issue, province-wide, was profoundly minor, as generations of children had/have ridden a bicycle without cracking their coconut. (Aside: At the time, countering the idea to include adults was the factual notion that helmets would save more lives if automobile drivers wore them.)
The slippery slope was greased years ago, so, we can all anxiously await the next over-protective law to remove potential danger, carelessness, and stupidity from society.
Elizabeth, Ontario
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roy cotton
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Kenny behinsd the wheel
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Soon Ontarians will live in a world where everything that is not compulsory, is forbidden.
The existing statutes on dangerous driving are adequate.
QEW Driver
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However, if this new law can't be enforced - what's the use?
Robin the Hood
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Enough "Nanny" Non sense
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- TOUGH NOOGIES Dalton!
Toofast2
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I agree that handsfree is a good idea when driving, but where does it stop? Maybe they should ban CB's and radios too, they could be considered a distraction by some people. Hell, maybe we should ban EVERY option available on new cars and get back to the basics like in the old Model T's, there weren't any distractions on those, except for the manual windshield wipers.
They could even go as far as not allowing any brightly coloured cars on the road, or billboards on the highways. If every car looked the same it wouldn't distract other drivers.
I have a great idea...instead of banning every possible distraction why don't we toughen the licensing requirements for new drivers and have a mandatory Federal driver training course. We have driver training companies that I won't name, but that cater to "Young Drivers" that teach new drivers to immediately merge to the center lane when entering the highways, regardless of speed. This is a greater safety issue than having a GPS in the car.
I have clocked over a million accident free miles in the last 19 years, all while driving and using a CB, Satellite Communications, Cassette Player, CD Player, MP3 Player, GPS (and the old paper maps), and yes, even on a cell phone...
My point is that as we evolve, the world evolves with us, just like cruise control and ABS. We need to focus on better driver training to start with. If you take a cell phone away from a bad driver, it doesn't make him a good driver....
Well, that's my piece...
fitzz
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This is yet another example of a McGuinty move: the pretense of action on an issue of topical interest, when nothing other than the enforcement of existing law is required.
More smoke & mirrors!
Steve in Ottawa
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I know of an adult who died in a car accident as the result of driving and reaching for some fries which he had just purchased.
Jonny of the RCR
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NO CELL in N.S. and proud of it!!
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Mark
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Quincy
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most people can't use the vcr and tv remote together let alone drive and talk.
much needed, long overdue.
No the police need to set up a hotline to report it.
Elisa
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Enforce existing laws....
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We don't need another piece of legislation, wasting our money and just more legislation making our already overburdened legalistic lives more unbearable.
McGuinty and his cronies must go.
B. Kelley, Ontario
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JP in Ontario
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whats next???????
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Nnaumbua Farrell
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And if they are both distractions, why not ban conversations with passengers to boost road safety as well?
What about the distraction caused by intently listening and responding (in your mind or out loud) to a very interesting conversation on the radio "Oh gimme a break!" or "yes, that's right!"?
What about the distraction caused by listening and responding to your favourite song on the radio (come on, admit it, we all like singing along). That's listening and responding similar to cell phone onversation.
What if some study shows that radio listening and passenger conversations are indeed just as or even more distractiong than cell phone use?
If you want to ban cellphones for safety, be warned that you are opening the door to bans on alot of other things on the same grounds.
We cannot live risk free existences, and i'm not saying that there should absolutely never be any safety regulation but if there is, let's be aware of the potential consequences. I really don't think this has been thought through.
Melissa
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Phil
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GPS IS FOR SAFETY
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J.C.
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While on duty police are exempt from traffic laws.
This being said I would like to point out that I have seen many officers swerving back and forth in the lane while using their computers etc. I even saw one once cross over the center line while I was driving behind them. However I have also seen many police officers who drive well while using these instruments.
Therefore it is my belief that banning the use of such items is not the answer. It is the individual - some can drive safely using these items and some cannot!! I took an insurance test via the internet that was designed to see your response times while using several items and drinking etc while driving, and I had excellent response times, especially since their test was set up so that when sipping on a cup the cup was held much higher than one would hold it while drinking it and doing other things, that's for sure.
My point is that it is not the cell phones etc. that are the cause, It is the driver. Some people can multi-task and others cannot. This is just another unenforceable law and we already have too many laws as it is. Those that say we have laws in place already are absolutely correct!
And by the way, I rarely use my cell phone, which is already hands free anyway. I cannot comment on GPS as I do not have one, however I would imagine that would hold to the same situation.
DR
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J.C.
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Michelle
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... the cops aren't the ones making the laws.
Its their jobs to enforce them. Get it right.
For what its worth, they are people too and have the same opinions about how stupid a law it would be. Unfortunately that isn't something that is up to them.
How come people are so ignorant? Should be a law against it.
Steve G
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Andy
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Nnaumbua Farrell
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"A passenger in the car can see what's going on, and often times will know enough to be quiet when you're stressed or in dangerous areas that require extra concentration. A person on the other end of the phone can't know when you need to concentrate."
Talking to passengers is less of a distraction than talking to someone on a cell phone because passengers can know to be quiet depending on the road conditions. So would talking on cell phones be ok so long as it is done in areas that don't require alot of the driver's concentration?
And also, should conversations with passengers be banned in areas that require alot of a driver's concentation? Should you be ticketed for having a conversation with a passenger in a construction zone?
Norm
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Police have radios to be dispatched from, not cell phones. They are no different from anybody else when it comes to paying attention to traffic, are they? What's good for us is good for them...period! Safety first.
Norma Penny - Wasaga Beach
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Drivers are constantly faced with distractions such as billboards and talking to passengers in their vehicles, listening to the radio or CD player. Even attractive members of the opposite sex or great looking vehicles driving beside you is a distraction.
Legislating electronic devices will provide a hardship for those who's office is their car. There is no difference between taking a business call while driving and talking to a passenger. You cant take away every distraction that could possibly cause a driver to loose focus on his or her driving.
DANIEL H
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marvin
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Can I eat a McD's junior hamburger one-handed?
Jeez - shifting gears manually can be a distraction for new drivers. Maybe they will ban stick shifts now?
Good ol' Liberal Dalton - he lied when he got in, introduced more taxes (health care premium), tried to eliminate the <$4 no PST on food; southwestern Ontario's economy is faltering, we are losing thousands of manufacturing jobs and yet where is he?
Have you seen him? What is he doing?
He's been thinking about you talking in your car...and not about the officer behind you typing you up on his computer while driving.
Concerned Driver.
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Also most newer cars come with a hands free device in the car where u hook up the gps or phone and able to talk on speaker and hear the other person through u're car speakers, and i know all phones are voice activated for dialing a number. Sorry i get annoyed and heated just cause i have had some family members get hit by somone due to electronic use while driving.
J. Menes
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LDL Western ONT
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Nick, Ottawa
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It may only reduce accidents by like 2%, but I say ban hand-helds, and at least that's mroe in the arsenal of police to get drivers with!
Greg in Cambridge
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you can hear for 20 blocks blaring out of open windows is ok?
That distracts more than just the idiot person making the noise.
mike
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Paul Mitchell
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To all of you that think that banning hands free devices should think, when you have to look at a highway sign and say what did that say while trying to read it at 100km should think of the bennifit of GPS talking to you and telling you when to turn can save lives. As for hands free Cell phones what is the diffrence form talking to the passanger and on that. Maybe we should implant a communications device in your head that allows you to communicate with each other, then when teleportation is avail we will not have to worry. Lets not take all the freedoms away from us. Take the money we pay for the drivers that the decission makers have, and give all people a hands free device instead. Lets put our money into ventures that will make all lives affordable (GAS) instead of waisting it on things like this. Money grabs with tickets. Let the police worry about real policing instead.
Mike Brampton, Ontario
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Heather
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How about banning MAN who drove down Martingrove reading the *full* Toronto Star - open across the steering wheel???
How about the MAN with his interior light on driving down the 401 Sunday night from Kingston reading a novel open on the steering wheel???
How about the MAN who was obviously a teacher going 80km up the 400 one morning marking papers on his steering wheel???
There are LOTS of things people do in a car that distract from driving.
Cheryl Verellen
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